I like openbox more.  I don't like the thought of having a standard window tray and "start" menu, just not fast enough for me.  I know I could use dmenu and the sorts, which would already defeat the purpose of navigating any application menu.  Maybe I'm just looking for something lighter than openbox but still has the same feel.

There's not much to Openbox, it's the apps being used. You can slim stuff down perfectly if you don't run a panel, systray, Dropbox and stuff. I've actually found Openbox to be easier to navigate once I removed tint2. Just middle click the desktop, and there's your panel.

Just installed #! openbox yesterday ... love it. One of the best and brightest examples of gnu/nix I've seen. Am newbish, but already been through probably going on 20 diff distro's to date. CB has jumped right to the top of my list ... Awesome imo. Strange how most of the nix distro's I've found that I like the most are made by one or a handful of devs. VS the big boys, like ubuntu, which I've disliked from the moment I 1st tried it. After hearing all the hype about it. CB is a diff story, this is pure, distilled gnu/nix at it's finest.

Because my comp is oldish, 512mbs ddr2. I've grown a fetish for all things light weight linux. The functionality, user friendly and feature richness #! packs into such a small footprint is amazing to me. Hats off to the mad linux scientist behind and community surrounding #!.

As for the topic of the thread. Don't see why there can't be both ... xfce and openbox. Guessing like anyone who's made something awesome the guy behind CB wants people to use it. So adding xfce as an officially supported option to me makes perfect sense. Easier n lower learning curve. Should make it more accessible to da masses. If it performs as well and is as of high quaility as I'm finding #! openbox to be and I'm sure it does/is. Just gives people another/fuller DE option.

Had no problem digesting CB's openbox. Though have too much time on me hands and a degree in googology. Guessing for some, not having a fully stocked DE would be a major put off to using #!. Their loss really but CB's loss too. Cause it should be more widely used, known and credited imo.

So think the person and supporting people behind this distro have a real idea of what they're doing. I really like the openbox release myself. It's the resource miser in me. Even on high spec hardware I'd more than likely run obox. Probably both ... debating installing the xfce release along with the others on this dinosaur. Betting on newer hardware #! would blaze along like no other. Does the same on oldish/low spec too apparently. Whichever changes they make or additions they bring to CB. Guessing it'll be for good reason and an improvement. Pretty obvious to me the CB dev/s know their stuff and are talented as hades when it comes to nix.

Was here researching sys stats comparing the openbox and xfce release. RAM/cpu ... etc. Anybody had the pleasure of both and care to enlighten newbs like myself with some actual numbers ? Thanks ... just a nix newbs 2 cents. Worth probably less than that ... I know, sighs.

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fredbird67 wrote:

I'd miss the ability to use Compiz, and as far as I know, I don't think that's possible in Openbox

Do you use Compiz with Xfce? Xfce's own compositing is more than enough for me :)

fredbird67 wrote:

#! Statler Xfce, however, is setting things straight and is, IMHO, what Xfce was meant to be.

True that :) If you do a basic Xfce install in Debian you pretty much get what CrunchBang provides minus some custom tweaks and configurations.

Exactly what I have done with Debian, a minimal install of Xfce and its as fast as #! I think.
Obviously I like Xfce, no I think I love it now. Some folks say it reminds them of Gnome, maybe thats the reason why I like it so. It is lighter but somehow gives me everything what I need.
Though, Openbox is pretty nice of course but it is not for my daily work.

I'd miss the ability to use Compiz, and as far as I know, I don't think that's possible in Openbox

Do you use Compiz with Xfce? Xfce's own compositing is more than enough for me :)

True that :) If you do a basic Xfce install in Debian you pretty much get what CrunchBang provides minus some custom tweaks and configurations.

Once you go tiling, you don't ever go... well, you just spend a lot less time dicking around with your windows.

Also, even though it's a bit of a challenge to do with #!, I'd miss the ability to use Compiz, and as far as I know, I don't think that's possible in Openbox short of installing LXDE (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this).  Besides, the few times I've used Openbox, it felt disorganized to me, and LXDE doesn't feel quite as polished as Xfce does.

Besides, several people in this thread (who are obviously Openbox die-hards, no doubt), said that Xfce is slow.  That's probably because Xubuntu is the only Xfce distro you've ever tried, which is bloated and has, in my opinion, given Xfce an undeserved bad reputation in the speed department.  #! Statler Xfce, however, is setting things straight and is, IMHO, what Xfce was meant to be.

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