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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

sjr wrote:

Speaking of enlightenment, was thinking of downloading and trying Moon OS.  Saw a review this week that also makes me wonder about giving Puppy Arcade a shot.  I'd tried another Live CD linux gaming thing last year, but it didn't agree with my graphics card.

Speaking of enlightenment, Elive 2.0 stable has just been released. Enlightenment based on Debian testing. Please check it out and share your experience with us, but please don't say something that would make me...hop. wink
http://www.elivecd.org/

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why don't you just install E17 on your working machine, instead downloading an iso?

... I'm beginning to feel hopeless... roll


open your mind for help big_smile cool

we, as distroholics - the ones after therapy - should ban distrowatch and linuxtracker for being the source of are illness!

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I'm giving the new elive a spin right now, it's pretty slick!

Interestingly it is neck and neck with #! on the distrowatch popularity list.

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^^ I agree with Klanger - I've got openbox, a castrated version of gnome (no nautilus), and enlightenment (e17) desktops running on crunchbang. They're easily and quickly switchable using the logout/login sessions menu and have kept me from downloading distros many times. cool

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Just gave it a try, too. Yes, it's slick and beautiful. However it reminds me, why since installing #! for the first time last year I've always come back to it: With Crunchbang there are the applications and nothing more, and with those stylish, 'full-featured' distros like SuSE, Mandriva and even Elive you always get a system standing between you and the programs you want to use.
At least that's what it feels like to me.
BTW Elive seems to wholly depend on its own repos. I wonder, how close it really stays to Debian.

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qbrick wrote:

Just gave it a try, too. Yes, it's slick and beautiful. However it reminds me, why since installing #! for the first time last year I've always come back to it: With Crunchbang there are the applications and nothing more, and with those stylish, 'full-featured' distros like SuSE, Mandriva and even Elive you always get a system standing between you and the programs you want to use.
At least that's what it feels like to me.
BTW Elive seems to wholly depend on its own repos. I wonder, how close it really stays to Debian.

I agree, #! does not have an ambient techno soundtrack.

It looks like elive makes periodic snapshots of the Debian repos and mirrors them in its own repos. There is a warning in the etc/apt/sources.list file that you can switch it to the Debian repos, but it is not recommended, because you'll get lots of updates. smile Glad #! doesn't do this, I like getting the fixes/patches ASAP.

One thing is for sure, from browsing their forums, elive's development process is not as "transparent" as #!'s.

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

It isn't that I mind paying for a good OS, but there are just too many completely free-to-install-and-use-to-your-little-heart's-content Linux distros out there, with e-17 installable in all of them, to pay an "activation" stipend to "fully install and open" it on my computer. It's probably well worth the money, and I don't object to the idea... it's just that with a zillion million alternatives that don't require "activation codes," and which, with some tweaking, can be made to work pretty much like Elive, I wouldn't bother with it. Unless I was a hopelessly addicted distro-hopper that just had to install it for awhile even at a price.

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klanger wrote:

why don't you just install E17 on your working machine, instead downloading an iso?

... I'm beginning to feel hopeless... roll


open your mind for help big_smile cool

we, as distroholics - the ones after therapy - should ban distrowatch and linuxtracker for being the source of are illness!

tongue

I have tried alternate managers or environments on my own installations, but it's never as interesting to me as seeing how someone else designed their distro.    I like trying the whole thing mostly to see how the developers have brought everything together, if that makes sense.

As far as distroholism goes, just surrender. tongue It's easier that way. 

--sjr

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I have to confess that I have come a long way from hiding row upon row of distros in the bottom drawer of my filing cabinet. I just had to 'try' every new flavor of Linux that came out. Or Solaris... Or QNX... Or Sky... Or, well you get the picture.
Not to say that I haven't 'fallen off the wagon' lately - Tota, SqueezeBang, ArchBang; if it's got a 'bang' to it I just can't seem to resist.

Damn, I need help... roll

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@mick: my wife just found a small bag of thumbdrives in the cookie jar...puppy variants, if I remember right... roll

@qbrick: man, I hope you're feeling OK...I get worried whenever I scroll past your animated gif.... yikes

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It seems that what ever distro i hop too.I always come back to #!.
Sometime i just have to try the new pretty shiny bloated distros and other times light and fast..

But when all is said and done,,I always come home to #!.

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charlie01 wrote:

It seems that what ever distro i hop too.I always come back to #!.
Sometime i just have to try the new pretty shiny bloated distros and other times light and fast..

But when all is said and done,,I always come home to #!.

Hi, all. My name is Raleigh and I'm new around the world of Linux. I just wanted to agree whole-heartedly. I have gone through: OpenSuse (Sluggish), Linux Mint (pretty but difficult to install all of my favorite apps), Linux Mint Fluxbox (Buggy), Ubuntu (bloated), Xubuntu (prettier, but having an ext3 and an NTFS drive to talk to each other under this was a headache), Debian (um, okay), Fedora (got snippy with me), Antix (humdrum), Zenwalk (buggy), Sabayon (never loaded quite right)... and so many others.
Crunchbang has proven to be stable and fast on my old computer.

Manually entering items into the menu GUI semed like a pain until I realized that the only things there were exactly the things I wanted. Now, if I could stop monkeying around with Conky...

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ral wrote:

Now, if I could stop monkeying around with Conky...

Well, this is quite easy -> sudo apt-get purge conky & reboot ... and your problem is gone!

wink

PS. it is a joke, don't use that code unless you really want to remove conky for good from #!

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klanger wrote:
ral wrote:

Now, if I could stop monkeying around with Conky...

Well, this is quite easy -> sudo apt-get purge conky & reboot ... and your problem is gone!

wink

PS. it is a joke, don't use that code unless you really want to remove conky for good from #!

Playing with Conky is almost as addictive as distro hopping,,But once you get everything you want in it working ,,Then its all good from there.

Every distro i hop too i  bring my conky with me.

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klanger wrote:
ral wrote:

Now, if I could stop monkeying around with Conky...

Well, this is quite easy -> sudo apt-get purge conky & reboot ... and your problem is gone!

wink

PS. it is a joke, don't use that code unless you really want to remove conky for good from #!

Thanks for the warning, but I'm not afraid of a command line. big_smile

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DixieDancer wrote:

It isn't that I mind paying for a good OS, but there are just too many completely free-to-install-and-use-to-your-little-heart's-content Linux distros out there, with e-17 installable in all of them, to pay an "activation" stipend to "fully install and open" it on my computer. It's probably well worth the money, and I don't object to the idea... it's just that with a zillion million alternatives that don't require "activation codes," and which, with some tweaking, can be made to work pretty much like Elive, I wouldn't bother with it. Unless I was a hopelessly addicted distro-hopper that just had to install it for awhile even at a price.

-R

I payed 10$ (the minimum required) to download elive 1.0  iso, because i really liked the look and the fact it had low hardware requirements (that was before i found crunchbang). That's ok, it's a fair method and it's their choice. But then i found crunchbang, all i was looking for in a distro, and guess what, i donated 25$ to the project. I then tried linux mint 8, all the eyecandy ready for all out of the box system but without the bugs of its parent ubuntu, so i decided to donate 25$ too (and by the way i have read linux mint has earned more than 20 thousand dollars last year in donations). I wanted to donate to debian (the old generous always stable linux grandmother) too but they don't offer a paypal account to do it so i couldn't, but i wanted to. In resume, in my opinion is more elegant and efficient to make a great distro and tell here it is... download and enjoy and if you like it you are free to donate to the project, here's the link. I think (and the mint experience confirms it) people will respond better to that. And congratulations to corenominal for a great distro and all the crunchbang community for being what it is.

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

charlie01 wrote:
ral wrote:

Now, if I could stop monkeying around with Conky...

Playing with Conky is almost as addictive as distro hopping

Every distro i hop too i  bring my conky with me.

You guys need to stop playing with your Conky ... this is a family site.  There are women and children watching. lol

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

hello friends,
anyone tried linux mint 8 lxde ??
your reviews please..

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spoovy wrote:

I've really had it with hopping cos i don't really learn anything, and I really want to, so a couple weeks ago I bought the "Fedora and RHEL Bible" and i've wiped all my partitions.   Fresh HDD, with just one distro!  ooerr. 

So its just me, Fedora 12, and over a thousand pages to get through before my next distro!  Thats some frosty turkey. Wish me luck big_smile


NB the first thing i did was install OB though, I can't do without it now!


Quoting yourself is always bad form I know.  Let me off though, cos I finished the aforementioned 'Bible'.    Very interesting, learnt alot, but i'm back to #!.   Couldn't stay away.    I've also strayed a couple of times.  I'm not meant for distro-monogamy.

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spoovy wrote:

I'm not meant for distro-monogamy.

Distro-monogamy lol lol lol  I think, you've "coined" a new Linux-term.

My distro-hopping has slowed, to only looking for 'small' Linux-based distros for my old laptop.

My Main PC, is quite happy with just 2 distros, at the moment.    #!Crunchbang 9.04.1 and #!Crunchbang-10 "Statler"

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I'm rejoining this 12-step group (EDIT: more of an enabler group?)...currently downloading Pupitup to see if it's as "netbook-friendly" as they claim.  May have the same Broadcom wifi issues that many Linux distros, including the "official" Puppy release, have, but that shouldn't be much of an issue if I only use it for its recording capabilities.

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

Any distro (pup) that creates a root account for the user gets a big thumbs-down from me.

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Well, both servers I could find for Pupitup keep giving me "connection reset by peer" errors, so I may not have an opportunity to try it out.  Only reason I'm even looking at it is it claims to be a netbook-friendly DAW distro.

Do yous know about anything lighter than Ubuntu Studio that I should look at?  (And before you say dyne:bolic, I've already tried that.  Doesn't like my sound hardware.  Besides, I don't want to have to lug around an optical drive.)

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Re: Distro-hoppers Anonymous

@spoovy -- Re the distro-monogamy thing: We're all distro-sluts here...you can relax. It's obvious that you are, however, headed back into the distro dumper sooner rather than later with all that empty space on your hard drive. Easy does it...

@pvsage -- When you read or hear "netbook-friendly" it's time to turn and run, man. Pup variants have brought me to tears more than once...I can never get the damned wifi to work and when I'm getting close to the end of my rope I swear I can hear a "bwahahaha! Gotchoo again!" from somewhere out in the darkness.

My current predicament is beginning to take a deep toll. Maybe someone can help? I recently bought an asus eeepc 1005P which, in my view, is a kick-ass machine...except that I cannot, to save my life, get either #! 9.04 or Statler to load and run properly (this is serious). A lot of the problem has to do with no time due to work and limited Linux knowledge, which is a recipe for disaster for a distro-slut. Anyway, 9.04 refuses to give me more that 800x600 (I need 1024x600) and Statler won't install with either a thumbdrive or USB CD-DVD drive. At the moment, I'm flipping out trying to somewhat crunchify Mint 8 XFCE...conky is in place but I can't figure out how to replace the panel with tint2, and the xfce menu has blown up and frozen my screen more than once. I'm pretty much a sh*t-faced mess right now, and I'm hoping my bowels hang in there until I get this solved. The panicked run-up to mint xfce included lubuntu, mint 8 lxde, a full plate of Ubuntu (I supersized it and almost drowned in the dreaded Lake of Gnome), a pup thing, an enlightenment thing, and a few other variants that made my left eye twitch. yikes

Any quick fixes for the 800x600 rez problem? I think that would be my quickest path back to a semblance of sanity...

-- D&F

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