Re: USB Install

I think you can mount the usb drive as a FAT partition, with

mount -t VFAT /dev/sdd /cdrom


or as /media/usb or whatever.  However, this was as far as I got - even on a vanilla Debian testing netboot.  I'll bring home a usb cdrom tomorrow and see what that does.

Re: USB Install

It's now possible to try or to install Statler from a usb device, using Multiboot-V3.
It's very easy to use, even if it's in French. Here's the link :
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … 7#p3430207

Re: USB Install

Bushman02 wrote:

It's now possible to try or to install Statler from a usb device, using Multiboot-V3.
It's very easy to use, even if it's in French. Here's the link :
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … 7#p3430207


BEWARE !!!!
Though it is a very efficient tool, it will localize your install in french!
Very useful for me, but a bit distessing for anyone else...

Asus EeePC 901A (16Gb SSD) - Statler Alpha 2-OpenBox

Re: USB Install

Hi all!
I had lots of trouble installing Statler via USB to my eee pc. But in the end I managed to do it quite easily!

I used win32diskimager to write the ISO to a thumb drive.
Then at debian-installer, when prompted about the cdrom drive i selected to choose the driver to load, then selected 'none'. After that, it asked me the device to use, I used the USB device (/dev/sdb for me) and it just worked fine after that.

Re: USB Install

eee900a  I used unetbootin

trying what Kruce wrote via various permutations
mount -t vfat
               VFAT  /dev/sdc cdrom
                                       /cdrom
all did not work  (I believe vfat is correct  cdrom or /cdrom should work)

I also did cd /media mkdir usb    and then tried mounting  via    mount /dev/sdc /media/usb 
no go

every time it would not sucessfully mount.  odd

However

mount -t usbfs /dev/sdc cdrom   was the first sucessful mount for me.  (googled, just a meta format)  However it borked getting the preconf.   Off to burn a cd and use external cd-rw.   And it then installed.

I really like what I saw on the live version.

Last edited by paxmark1 (2010-05-03 17:46:56)

Re: USB Install

let me say my experience also on the topic

tried installing both with unetbootin and with win32imager according to the wiki, but either grub would fail or installation itself. so, I decided >

paxmark1 wrote:

Off to burn a cd and use external cd-rw.   And it then installed.

Hopefully it is a desktop with a cdrom, because if I want to install it on my netbook, don't know what to do...

Re: USB Install

From what I've seen in #crunchbang helping someone out with a USB install, the trick seems to be to follow the wiki for the bits where it asks for the CD-drive etc. Then to choose manual partitioning.
As the person we were helping kept getting to that bit and failing using the guided partitioner.
When choosing to partition manually it seemed to work, and a few of us netbook users in there at the time confirmed that we'd also chosen manual partitioning.

I'm not sure how helpful this is, or of it will work for everyone, but for anyone getting that far in the install then failing it may be something to look into.
Apologies if this has been suggested before too.

rats live on no evil star

Re: USB Install

Hi Berk,

In my case, I tried a USB install and did a manual partitioning. I was able to mount the USB onto cdrom. But post partitioning when the installation begins, it reaches 33% and then says "Install failed". I am getting stuck at this point. I have no idea what to do. I did google but there seems to be very little help for crunchbang USB install other than this forum.

Still waiting for someone to help me sort this matter. Does anyone believe this is a Debian problem and not a crunchbang problem?

-Harakiri

Re: USB Install

harakiri wrote:

Hi Berk,

In my case, I tried a USB install and did a manual partitioning. I was able to mount the USB onto cdrom. But post partitioning when the installation begins, it reaches 33% and then says "Install failed". I am getting stuck at this point. I have no idea what to do. I did google but there seems to be very little help for crunchbang USB install other than this forum.

Still waiting for someone to help me sort this matter. Does anyone believe this is a Debian problem and not a crunchbang problem?

-Harakiri

I've had this problem on my desktop, but still have no idea either (Googling didn't help much). The annoying thing is it works on my netbook (in fact, I'm writing this reply in the #! Statler partition), just not my desktop. I've been meaning to try installing vanilla Debian to see whether it's a CrunchBang problem and not general Debian problem, but I haven't found the time yet. Once I do, I'll let you know.

Re: USB Install

harakiri wrote:

Hi Berk,
In my case, I tried a USB install and did a manual partitioning. I was able to mount the USB onto cdrom. But post partitioning when the installation begins, it reaches 33% and then says "Install failed". I am getting stuck at this point. I have no idea what to do.
-Harakiri

The fact that the install fails at a certain point leads me to suspect that it could be an issue with the ISO or a bad "sector" on the usb drive. Have you tried checking the image (MD5)? Don't mean to be rude, sometimes I find myself transcending reality with the solution in front of my nose! tongue

I wonder if it's possible to have more informative error messages when installing since it can be frustrating to have the install fail and be left with a "useless" error message.

As for my part I tried unetbootin and Ubuntu's USB Startup Disk Creator and both would fail at the select CD-ROM step, no matter what I tried, nothing would work and the installer would not continue. The most irritating part for me was that the live usb session worked just fine!

You're running off the f***in' drive how the f*** can't you find it?!?

Then I tried the 'dd' method described in the WiKi and it worked perfectly. Thank you for enlightening me! big_smile

Re: USB Install

Hi mrEnke,

Thanks for pointing out the possibility of a bad download. Will check for the md5 sum this time before installing. I would like to share the error messages but I do not know where to find the error messages. I am brought up on Ubuntu, and it has always worked out of the box. The installation has never been an issue. Guess one of the downsides of this is the inability to debug installations. Can anyone guide me as to where the error messages are saved/reported so that I can post them and start some debugging.

Regarding the 'dd' method that worked for you, I too followed wiki to the last letter at least I remember doing so. And yet the installation failed.

Thanks
Harakiri

Re: USB Install

mrEnke wrote:
harakiri wrote:

Hi Berk,
In my case, I tried a USB install and did a manual partitioning. I was able to mount the USB onto cdrom. But post partitioning when the installation begins, it reaches 33% and then says "Install failed". I am getting stuck at this point. I have no idea what to do.
-Harakiri

The fact that the install fails at a certain point leads me to suspect that it could be an issue with the ISO or a bad "sector" on the usb drive. Have you tried checking the image (MD5)? Don't mean to be rude, sometimes I find myself transcending reality with the solution in front of my nose! tongue

I wonder if it's possible to have more informative error messages when installing since it can be frustrating to have the install fail and be left with a "useless" error message.

As for my part I tried unetbootin and Ubuntu's USB Startup Disk Creator and both would fail at the select CD-ROM step, no matter what I tried, nothing would work and the installer would not continue. The most irritating part for me was that the live usb session worked just fine!

You're running off the f***in' drive how the f*** can't you find it?!?

Then I tried the 'dd' method described in the WiKi and it worked perfectly. Thank you for enlightening me! big_smile

I don't think there's a problem with the ISO, bc I used the same one to install it on my netbook.

Re: USB Install

Toolz wrote:

So based on my experience I'd say use Unetbootin with 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true' boot option

Imaginary "thanks button" pressed!

Re: USB Install

realgpp wrote:
Toolz wrote:

So based on my experience I'd say use Unetbootin with 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true' boot option

Imaginary "thanks button" pressed!

Hi Realgpp,

Does it mean you managed to get Statler USB install working using this method?

-harakiri

Re: USB Install

Probably not that useful but I'm going to report another success (installing statler xfce i686 on an eeepc 900) following the wiki to dd the iso onto a USB, and mount /dev/sdX.

Re: USB Install

hughbert wrote:

Probably not that useful but I'm going to report another success (installing statler xfce i686 on an eeepc 900) following the wiki to dd the iso onto a USB, and mount /dev/sdX.

Hi,

People are reporting various levels of success while installing Statler. Is there any hardware commonality among all those who could get it working.

-Harakiri

Re: USB Install

Well I wish I had better news to report, but I have been banging my head against the wall for the last several hours trying to get any Linux distro on my new notebook. An HP elitebook 2540p if anyone is curious.  I have tried every how to I could find anywhere including all the methods here (Unetboot, dd etc.)  I have unfortunately met with little success.

On the bright side I can get into the Live CD if i use Unetboot, So i know it will work beautifully when it decides to work, but I fail at the CD-ROM detection part. 

Oddly enough absolutely NONE of my machines will boot from a USB stick that has been dd'd.  None of them will get past the POST screen... boggles my mind

Re: USB Install

^ USB boots can be hit and miss. My Aspire One netbook installs perfectly with a Statler dd'ed drive but trying to create a Debian Squeeze Xfce boot disk is another issue altogether. dd'ing completely fails and a unetbootin effort fails at the drive detection phase. Salix OS fails with dd'ing but works successfully with unetbootin.

Go figure neutral

Re: USB Install

@omns - indeed - I could get Statler up and running fine on my little eeePC 701 4G as a live CD (USB), but had no joy at all getting it to install to HD, having tried many of the tips shown here..
Variously, I have had mixed results with several distros, DSL failed to run in any form, Puppy installed both ways but couldn't reach the WEP wifi network, UNR was slow, so am currently using XUbuntu (9.xx) set up to look like #!, tried the latest XUbuntu 10.04 but it hung as a live run.
Love #! for its awesome simplicity and useability.

The Wombat

Re: USB Install

Well I broke down and bought a USB DVD-drive at best buy.  With it installation has gone beautifully!!  Well mostly, there was an odd issue with the wifi not working, but working with the live image.  it seems to have fixed itself though.  Thanks to everyone for all their suggestions! 

I am quite glad that my notebook and some crunch to it now!

Re: USB Install

Successful install of the 686 openbox flavour on a EeePC901A (16GiB) using the dd command to write the iso on a USB stick.

Thanks a lot to Toor58 for his explanation !

Last edited by Yogi (2010-05-21 08:05:42)

Asus EeePC 901A (16Gb SSD) - Statler Alpha 2-OpenBox

Re: USB Install

harakiri wrote:
hughbert wrote:

Probably not that useful but I'm going to report another success (installing statler xfce i686 on an eeepc 900) following the wiki to dd the iso onto a USB, and mount /dev/sdX.

Hi,

People are reporting various levels of success while installing Statler. Is there any hardware commonality among all those who could get it working.

-Harakiri

Seems to be a lot of success with eeepc's (don't take that as solid truth, just the impression I'm getting from this thread...)

Re: USB Install

harakiri wrote:

Hi Berk,

In my case, I tried a USB install and did a manual partitioning. I was able to mount the USB onto cdrom. But post partitioning when the installation begins, it reaches 33% and then says "Install failed". I am getting stuck at this point. I have no idea what to do. I did google but there seems to be very little help for crunchbang USB install other than this forum.

Still waiting for someone to help me sort this matter. Does anyone believe this is a Debian problem and not a crunchbang problem?

-Harakiri

Bumping this problem b/c I've been suffering from it too. I have Stater installed fine on my EeePC 900A, but I run into this problem on my desktop. Not sure how many others have this problem, but it's rather annoying.

On the previous page, I posted a picture of the error messages I got right after the problem occurred.

Re: USB Install

Not actually tried it but unetbootin version 408-1 has a "Testing HdMedia" option in the Debian tab. One simply drops a cd iso into the root directory of the usb and that is then used to install from.

Well worth checking out.

Re: USB Install

I tried to install Statler on 3 computers (xfce and openbox) using various gui tools (including unetbootin which has always worked for me), different versions and different operating environments. All failed.

Using the linux dd command, I was able to install both xfce and openbox versions on all three computers, first try. Just thought I would let people know in case it helps.

#! Statler on eeepc 1000H
#! Statler alpha 2 on eeepc 701