Re: chromium default browser?

Maybe there should not be a browser by default in a Linux distro. There should be a list of browsers during the installation to choose from.

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bastiano wrote:

Maybe there should not be a browser by default in a Linux distro. There should be a list of browsers during the installation to choose from.

Ooh, I like that idea! +1

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@bastiano:  Uzbl has received some discussionhere, as have several others.  My favorites are Midori and Kazehakase, but last time I tried them they both had a habit of quitting at short, random intervals.

There's another browser that's theoretically a CLI browser, but can be launched in an X window with a command line switch...can't remember which one that was though.

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I personally would be in favour of having Chromium as default. I never had aforementioned issue with fonts, or any other issue in fact. It is already default on my system, winning my affections over other browsers. I find Firefox resource hungry and UI real-estate wasteful. UZBL I found to also be somewhat powerhungry, especially as its supposed to be minimalist and basic. What constitutes to it's minimalism is lack of tabs and counter-intuitive navigation and usability.

Other browsers such as Midori and Aurora I found have serious problems with flash. So unfortunately were pushed out of the 'serious contender' position for me.

Saying that I do use Firefox at work for front-end development for it's numerous plugins and scripts. And if we see enough of a push in the html5 direction would gladly move to using Aurora as a default browser as flash support would become irrelevant.

Please remember that everything said in the post is solely representation of my opinion based on personal experience.

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Zapadlo wrote:

UZBL I found to also be somewhat powerhungry, especially as its supposed to be minimalist and basic. What constitutes to it's minimalism is lack of tabs and counter-intuitive navigation and usability.

I've been said that UZBL has been already discussed in other threads. So I'm not going to start a new one because UZBL is not the topic of this thread. But I say just one more thing.  Zapadlo, if you read the link I previously posted before you can find this:

"uzbl-tabbed: wraps around uzbl-browser and multiplexes it

    * Spawns one window containing multiple tabs, each tab containing a full embedded uzbl-browser.
    * Ideal as a quick and simple solution to manage multiple uzbl-browser instances without getting lost."

Last edited by bastiano (2010-07-27 10:50:37)

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bastiano wrote:

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As you have said, lets not get into this argument, but I have used tabbed UZBL before. And I stand by my point that it lacks tabbed support. Sticking two more wheels on a bike does not make it a car.

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Not that I'm recommending it as a default but there is also jumanji http://pwmt.org/projects/jumanji for users who like playing with minimal browsers.

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For those fans of Chrome, here's how to put it in your repository ..

sudo wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add -

Then open up Synaptic and add to your repository list -

deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free main

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@pagan: I think Chrome does that automagically if you download the .deb from their site.

Cool tip nonetheless. cool

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It's a memory hog like Firefox used to be, you need to restart it frequently if you open 1000 tabs.
It's fast and good, I actually prefer it above Firefox when I don't need Firebug or anything fancy.

I use it with the flashblock plugin.
It can be the default browser, even better if we hook it up with a Crunchbang linux theme.

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Chromium 5.0.375.125~r53311-1 is in the Squeeze repositories today.  wink

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As for some reason Firefox is extremely slow to load pages when I'm running a original Debian-based system ((inkl. #!) - it is running lightning fast in Mint 9 in Virtualbox though), I've changed to Chromium, and now webpages load before I even hit the button (nearly). I've never really seen as fast a pageloader as this, and I'm very happy about it as now I get to keep my lovely Debian Testing - instead of having to switch to Mint because of a stupid browser.

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steen wrote:

As for some reason Firefox is extremely slow to load pages when I'm running a original Debian-based system ((inkl. #!) - it is running lightning fast in Mint 9 in Virtualbox though), I've changed to Chromium, and now webpages load before I even hit the button (nearly). I've never really seen as fast a pageloader as this, and I'm very happy about it as now I get to keep my lovely Debian Testing - instead of having to switch to Mint because of a stupid browser.

Firefox is not a stupid browser. You have said that it works faster in Mint than in original Debian based distributions, so it seems that the speed issue is not only limited to Firefox itself.
Im a big fan of Open Source philosophy and Firefox is doing a great work with  it. I prefer to lose 1 second of loading time than the freedom that Open Source means. Chromium is also from the Open Source, but it comes from Google and Google is doing what it says not to do, not to be evil.

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bastiano, with the context, I think steen was actually saying they'd rather not switch distros over an issue with one single application (the browser) and not actually calling Firefox a stupid browser. I might be wrong, but that's how I understood it smile

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Edit- I'm starting to get on board with the idea of Chromium being the default. It's been shaping up nicely recently.

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chillicampari wrote:

bastiano, with the context, I think steen was actually saying they'd rather not switch distros over an issue with one single application (the browser) and not actually calling Firefox a stupid browser. I might be wrong, but that's how I understood it smile

Right!!!! smile

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Personally, options are nice.  I like the simplicity of chrome - albeit I understand there are some privacy issues.  You can mitigate a lot of those issues by going to your google dashboard.  For example, I do not let Google track my browsing history.  Can they?  I'm sure, but so can everyone these  days.  Just do a search and you'll see how many advertising and other like programs run in just about every single page you visit.  It is insidious.  Only to say, put  things in context.

Opera is nice, but I find that many sites are not fully compatible.  I cannot find it, or aurora, or others mentioned in the #! package manager; yes once can download and manually install.  I'm a noob and sometimes a package manager is relaxing.

Again, the more the choice the better.  Looking at the Chromium wiki, it is fully open-source and some distros, to include Arch and the like, maintain it in their repository.  Again, why not maintain as many of these browsers as possible and let the users decide.

Not sure how helpful all this was.  I crave choice.  #! is a choice.  I would like to see more choices in my browsers and, as noted earlier in the thread, it might behoove distributions to include more choice either at install or through repositories.

Until then, keep #!'ing.

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Apart that its open-source and more on-the-edge Is there any difference between chrome and chromium? Chromium is the developing stage of Chrome is it not? Every half year so the actual stable Chromium becames a Chrome. So there can't be many differences. I don't think the google-guys rip off the trackers and little listeners from the program just for the opensource community...:|

Anyone heard of Iron? I'm looking forward to use it once the linux version is out of beta:rolleyes:
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srwar … s_iron.php

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Google Chrome is the latest fashion, a little like Opera was for a while.  Personally I can't use it for a number of reasons and still have Firefox.  It is also fashionable to complain about Firefox resource hunger, but it depends very much how you use it.  I only have 320MB of RAM and don't have any trouble.  Chrome was a complete beast when I crammed it full of tabs, so I guess you have to pick which one works best for you.  Just make sure there is something in the distro, it would be pretty scary to be sitting in front of a new install wondering how on earth to get on the internet.

BTW, almost everything you read about Firefox memory use, including the configuration options, is now wrong.  The cache design changed radically sometime during the v3.5 releases.  I think you'd still call it a work in progress, but worth giving a new release a try if you struggle with Firefox chewing up your memory.

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I think, let the Сhrome will be the default browser, bat I using Opera. Opera - not for many users. Chrome - is better and easier of FireFox.

Maybe I'm not to correctly speak (interprets), becouse I don't not know English, I apologize in advance.

Last edited by moscwich (2010-09-12 19:24:32)

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Val_B wrote:

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In any case Chrome looks R E A L L Y out of place on my systems no matter what I do, It just never fits in. I have never had font troubles with it though....

Ran across this today looking for something else but it's a workaround for the wonked out colors when using GTK integration.

Theme authors can override our heuristic based defaults by specifying the colors "frame_color" and "inactive_frame_color" in the themes gtk_color_scheme.

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ … ntegration

It's not perfect, but I got it looking a lot better than it was by adding it to the .gtkrc of the current theme I'm using.

I tried using system borders for full integration, it's not quite right (feels cramped), but it matches up better just by using the right color set.

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Croo wrote:

Anyone heard of Iron? I'm looking forward to use it once the linux version is out of beta:rolleyes:

For Croo and anyone else interested the stable version of Iron is here. http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.p … amp;t=1638

In answer to the original posters question. I don't think Chromium should be the default browser for my favorite distro. I've been using Chromium, Chrome, Iron for a few months now as a secondary browser and it's getting to be pretty good with a few tweaks. Let those who like it use it but let's keep FF aka Iceweasle as default.

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moscwich wrote:

I think, let the Сhrome will be the default browser, bat I using Opera. Opera - not for many users. Chrome - is better and easier of FireFox.

Maybe I'm not to correctly speak (interprets), becouse I don't not know English, I apologize in advance.

It's getting there but I still have to have Firefox around for some things, like for example WebEx, Bugzilla, SSL VPN into my work and  also a few web sites that just don't play nice with Chrome.  That and there are a few FF plugins that are a must have for me like HTTPFox, but give it some time, it's getting there.  I use it now for 99% of my browsing, it's sweet.

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Firefox has become a shaggy dawg. I almost never use it anymore except for cross-browser testing. I make Chrome or Chromium the default browser on all of my systems now, and it's fast, uses much less memory, and contrary to some people's paranoid nightmares it has not sold my first-born child into slavery or hawked photocopies of my passport on eBay.

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Oh I see a scum lowlife spammer in our midst

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I enjoy Chromium on my laptop and vote for it to be included (as least as an option maybe?) in #!.

Please people, don't confuse Chrome with Chromium.

Last edited by destring (2010-10-29 22:27:09)