• KFC
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Topic: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

Until this evening, I've stuck with the eee-control included with CrunchEee, and had no big beefs with it. However, over the last couple of days I've read several posts on the elmurato scripts, and thought I'd give it a try. This thread is mostly to get both sides of the story for a fair comparison of the two, so any tweaks/fixes people have found for either of these tools would be useful. Also, my experiences are all based on the functionality on an eee901, so input from people with other devices would be great. Here is my take on each of them:

Shared problems:

The fn+f2 key combo to enable/disable wireless is enabled for both tools, however when the wireless device is re-enabled, no wireless networks will be detected by the network manager. This issue can be fixed by downloading and using the full kernel rather than the "lean" one which is included with CrunchEee.

eee-control information:

  • Easy hotkey customisation

  • Friendly, reasonably attractive interface

  • Full* functionality of everything but the volume controls
    (* - brightness controls DO work, but are a little tempremental. For example, trying to increase brightness sometimes actually makes the screen darker, so you have to go right to the dimmest setting before making the screen brighter again.)

elmurato script information:

  • Full functionality of all fn keys, including volume

  • Power button broken

  • Unusual hotkey setup (the key which is "screen off" in default Xandros now logs off the user, but the effects of these hotkeys is customisable)

  • More transparent and customisable - advanced users may define what fan speeds should be used at a given temperature range, fine tuning of powersave/FSB speed

My conclusions:

Purely because of the power button problem, I reverted immediately back to eee-control. I can definitely see the appeal of the elmurato scripts if the issues mentioned can be ironed out, but at the moment I have eee-control configured in a nice way, and the sacrifices required to gain fuller fn+f(x) key functionality are a little to steep for me.

Now, #! users, have your say!

  • Registered: 2009-01-23
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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

That's odd with your power button! I also installed the script just yesterday, and my power button behaves just like before. Had to change the powersafe cpu setting though because my 2GB of RAM seem to have the problem with underclocking that is discussed in the forums...

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

I've actually had a couple of glitches since installing the elmurato scripts that I'd like to see if anyone else has also:

Glitch #1: If I suspend my Eee and leave it that way for a long time (e.g., overnight), it will not wake up from suspend. The power light is flashing when I go to wake it up, but upon pressing the power button it stops flashing (it goes solid, and the wifi light also comes on) and won't do anything until I hold down the power key to force shut it down. This happens whether or not the laptop is plugged in, and the battery is never discharged or anything like that, and what's weirder is it doesn't happen if I just suspend for an hour or so.

Glitch #2: Right after I installed the elmurato scripts, I noticed that my Eee doesn't always want to shut down when I tell it to. I have Nik's openbox-logout script installed, and sometimes I need to click shutdown as many as ten times before it pays me any mind. I can't be sure that this is in any way related to the elmurato scripts, but it definitely started right after installing them.

On the bright side, today I used my Eee for four hours straight on battery power before I had to shut it down, so I think it's managing the battery exceptionally well.

I'm not really worried about either of these glitches, since I'll reinstall fresh when the next #!eee is released and see how it goes from there; just curious, really...

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

So for a reason I can't remember now, I decided to try the Elmurato scripts again today. The display-off button doesn't work, and the power button is still broken. The power button DID work earlier, and has since stopped without me knowingly changing anything to do with the scripts hmm

If anyone can advise a solution for these problems it would be greatly appreciated, having tried the scripts again I would prefer to stick with Elmurato's stuff IF the power and display buttons can be fixed - I haven't read anywhere of others having this issue so I am assuming at the moment that it isn't just a bug.

Cheers all!

  • Registered: 2009-02-18
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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

has anyone tried this new elmuratos script - Eeeasy Scripts - http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=65606&p=1 on eeepc 900 (ssd)  and/or 1000HD (hdd)?

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

This works for me on EEE 900. Minimal Ubuntu 9.04 install from mini netinst iso. Run install script from www.crunchbanglinux.org/build-scripts/crunchbang-installer-9.04.01.sh. Pick Lite install in script. Add latest eee-control from jaunty repos, but this is not really required unless you want to toggle wireless, etc from GUI icon in systray. Add WICD and remove netmanager  and add eee-control-tray in autostart.sh

Add mozilla-plugin-vlc, openoffice.org, homebank, tunapie, streamripper, dropbox

Total of 2.06GB on my 4GB SSD-OB for everything except /home on the 16GB SSD.

Last edited by pghjake (2009-04-29 11:42:35)

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

pghjake wrote:

This works for me on EEE 900. Minimal Ubuntu 9.04 install from mini netinst iso. Run install script from www.crunchbanglinux.org/build-scripts/crunchbang-installer-9.04.01.sh. Pick Lite install in script. Add latest eee-control from jaunty repos, but this is not really required unless you want to toggle wireless, etc from GUI icon in systray. Add WICD and remove netmanager  and add eee-control-tray in autostart.sh

Add mozilla-plugin-vlc, openoffice.org, homebank, tunapie, streamripper, dropbox

Total of 2.06GB on my 4GB SSD-OB for everything except /home on the 16GB SSD.

Yeah, but what about  Eeeasy Scripts?

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

Not necessary. I could not get them to run in anything other than EEEBUNTU, which had other issues.

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

Sorry to  resurrect an old thread, but does anyone know if these scripts work with Statler?  I really miss the ability to control cpu speed as well as easily toggle wifi and bluetooth.

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

i have no eee script and my eeepc works perfectly

openbox-logout exit on escape

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zenlc wrote:

Sorry to  resurrect an old thread, but does anyone know if these scripts work with Statler?  I really miss the ability to control cpu speed as well as easily toggle wifi and bluetooth.

Eee-Control should work. I currently have Eeebuntu 4 beta running on my Eee PC 701, and I have those features (and I'm pretty sure it's the eee-control script doing it, but I don't have it handy to check right now). Eeebuntu 4 beta is based on Debian also (not Ubuntu, despite the name).

You might get more ueful info here:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowT … scripts.29

  • Registered: 2009-02-18
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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

ZAP wrote:
zenlc wrote:

Sorry to  resurrect an old thread, but does anyone know if these scripts work with Statler?  I really miss the ability to control cpu speed as well as easily toggle wifi and bluetooth.

Eee-Control should work. I currently have Eeebuntu 4 beta running on my Eee PC 701, and I have those features (and I'm pretty sure it's the eee-control script doing it, but I don't have it handy to check right now). Eeebuntu 4 beta is based on Debian also (not Ubuntu, despite the name).

You might get more ueful info here:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowT … scripts.29

no, it is http://www.auroraos.org/project/jupiter Jupiter

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klanger wrote:

no, it is http://www.auroraos.org/project/jupiter Jupiter

Oh, yeh - you're right. Try Jupiter instead. That works fine for me.

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ZAP wrote:
klanger wrote:

no, it is http://www.auroraos.org/project/jupiter Jupiter

Oh, yeh - you're right. Try Jupiter instead. That works fine for me.


OK, I see the page.  Looks great.  Where do I get it? Do I have to have the entire Eeebuntu distro to get it?

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Re: eee-control vs. elmurato scripts

zenlc wrote:
ZAP wrote:
klanger wrote:

no, it is http://www.auroraos.org/project/jupiter Jupiter

Oh, yeh - you're right. Try Jupiter instead. That works fine for me.


OK, I see the page.  Looks great.  Where do I get it? Do I have to have the entire Eeebuntu distro to get it?

Take a look here http://bb.fewt.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=62 in the forum. 

I downloaded and installed both deb files and installed them using gdebi without issue.  I've been following the work that fewt has done and if this works for me and my original 701 it'll be the first script that has.    big_smile