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Hmm....
Because Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Kubuntu Netbook edition both suck.
Because it saves me time from having to download Debian and install OpenBox by myself (something I might have done if I didn't find out about #!)
Because I like minimalism in general.
Because Corenominal is a very cool sounding name.
Because Black wins!!
my boyfriend about CrunchBang: "it's Ubuntu done right". I even like the default theme, it's all just perfect. after a year of using CrunchBang, I feel like no operating system can ever be any better. /#! fanatic
Last edited by aarolilja (2009-11-08 19:34:34)
I first Linux I ever tried was Knoppix. I immediately liked it, but I wasn't ready to install anything yet. This was *cough* several years ago.
Somewhere along the way, I also tried Puppy. I had been reading a lot of stuff, everything I could get my hands on, in fact, about Linux, computers, the Internet, what exactly 'cyberpunk' meant (I've settled on the literary genre definition even though I don't dress or live like a normal human my age), and along the way I found a program called BurnAtOnce which would work on my (then) XP desktop. I burned a Puppy 3.1 CD and then a SLAX CD, and then I had fun mixing and matching my SLAX programs on different burns. (I've since given all these CD's away several times.) So I had a liking for light and fast distros immediately.
I knew I wanted to become a command-line user, at least one who was comfortable with it, since the GUI takes you one step further out from where the machine 'lives,' and I knew that REAL geeks were commandline wizards. I am no where near this goal, but I am getting closer all the time. At least I keep telling myself that. I know, I know, you're saying, 'Get to the point--why do you use CrunchBang!' Bear with me, this all has a point.
The first install to hard disk I had the courage to try was Linux Mint 7, "Gloria." I had shown my wife Ubuntu Intrepid running live, and she hated the way it looked. I didn't like it, and I suspected it could be customized, but she would have none of it. So I kept looking.
I knew that Ubuntu was doing some things right, just from my reading. I knew that it was a good place to begin, but I also knew it could not just be Ubuntu if my wife was going to agree to install it on our computer. Mint, when I discovered it, was exactly what we needed, and we began by dual booting with XP, and now Mint is the main OS for her. Unfortunately, she wishes to keep Vista on this laptop for awhile, since she has the not completely unfounded fear that I will temporarily break the system(s) on the desktop and have to begin from a fresh install anyday now.
I have rotated Debian/Ubuntu based distros on another partition of our harddrive for some time, and every time the wind changed directions I would change Mint 5 Xfce to Debian Lenny (more or less) or MoonOS or whatever--it was even #! for awhile before.
#! is the level I am at now. After Karmic showed itself to not be a good fit as yet, I went for #!, and I'm glad I did. Because it is so small and light, I enjoy using it. And I feel that I can learn more commandline tools with it. AND I like the community here, which is very, very important in my choice of any distro I might stay with.
I am building Frankenputer in my basement, and when that creation comes to life, I plan to use him as my grand Slackware initiation. I know that if I learn Slackware I learn Linux, so it will improve my knowledge base for here as well. Since I sometimes do not like the Slackware community, I know I won't leave
#! behind. I like you guys. Who knows, after Slackware I plan to get my feet wet in Gentoo, and many of us might know that that their community is not known for its warmth. lol.
And let's not forget that there's something else this distro here has that no other distro does: a name that can be represented with just two symbols, #!. I love that!
I read the first three pages, and have some quotes and then a book ... errr ... my part. 
I'm not sure if this is a stupid idea or a good one.
Personal Observation: If not sure - alway take best option! 
Therefore: good idea!
Well, its one of those distributions that stump you on their first run.
1. Thunar (root mode)
I have a sub-menu "GOD" where every entry under it starts with "gksu" - for example thunar in that menu is called: THOR - God of Thunder and terminator: Cyborg Terminator. but that's just two#! Idea being, I like being GOD on my system, it's my universe#!
Look at that I have problems typing just ! {left-arrow delete #} now.
I could also run Puppy or DSL Linux distros, but I do not particularly care for the tiddlywinks feel I get from them.
Ubuntu and other distros of that ilk tend to begin to bog my system down after some time, due to it's antiquated nature.
tiddlywinks - Now that I like.
Although, if memory serves me. Puppy, when loaded, mounts all drives/partitions automatically. Nice to have, now if only my keyboard would work with it.
6.) Not as bloated as Ubuntu.
+1 and "Amen to that#!"
After all that - In a nutshell:
W2K told me my HD had died. Ubuntu 6.10 installed just fine and used that drive through to version 8.10, along the way I switched to Xubu because it was slooooow on my P-III /512MB RAM. Then I got an AMD64 2GB RAM and Xubu seemed to fly (in comparison), upgrades to 8.10 and 9.04 and for that last couple of months Xubu 9.04 had been "acting up", slow, freezing up. "BLOAT" I believe is the key word. I went against my better judgement and put Xubu 9.10 beta in - BIG MISTAKE!
Needed something in a hurry, I did NOT want Xubu back. I had tried ARCH but like the OP, at my age, I don't need the hassles and my wife is impatient and wants her "flash" games and email - yesterday. I could wait a bit but ....
So, on advice from others I gave #! a try. Read my review here.
So why do I use it:
1. Because Dr. Phil made it happen#!
2. It's Light and Fast.
3. Because Dr. Phil made it happen#!
4. OpenBox is really nice.
5. Because Dr. Phil made it happen#!
6. My Heinz "57" computer likes it.
7. My wife has stopped complaining about the menus and no panels. (Of course she has her own "Sub-Menu" so she doesn't have to look for her favourite programs.)
8. Nuff said#!
Have a GREAT day #!'ers
Bruce
"Dr. Phil you make good Crunchies!"
{to the sounds of the Mr. Christie commercial}
Last edited by Bruce (2009-11-19 20:39:51)
Pleasure and work, and as to the work, really, it is a production box.
First off, hello all.
I kicked MS out of my life (well... i use wine somewhat 
) when a friend told me about Mint. Actually, he used Ubuntu, but I went for a more newbie-friendly release. And needless to say, the experience was great. I was looking for something a little lighter and more "linuxy" (you get the picture), and stumbled upon CrunchBang.
Fast, stable as can be, light memory usage and simplicity. Things I've always strived for and found in #!.
Congrats corenominal, great job.
light memory usage and simplicity. Things I've always strived for
I'm not touching that.
Welcome to CrunchBang!
I like something that is light on resources, nimble, simple, and fast because I am too cheap to go buy a new computer (Mine is almost 5 years old, an eternity in the computer world.)
It's dark and mysterious, eerie and spooky! People who see Crunchbang on my laptop go "Ooo000ooO! You must be a really smart kid to use that!"
I think it's gorgeous. You non-emo types won't like me saying this, but it's very emo/goth-looking (could use a little red in it, but easily done), which is wicked cool. It's ready right "out of the box" for everything I use the laptop for, I have absolutely no configuring to do. From a fresh install, it goes right to work. Nothing to add, unlike all the 'buntus I have to add Medibuntu repos and packages to.
It keeps my low-resource laptop out of the landfill, and I expect will run as well on a netbook when it's time to replace the laptop.
Crunchbang is stark, beautiful, and powerful! If Xubuntu falters on my desktop PC after some update, Crunchbang will be my only distro!
-Robin
^ #! totally kicks ass on netbooks.
Emo, huh? I agree, #! is so sharp it cuts itself. 
I am a distro-hopper. I haven't really stuck with any given distro for more than 3 months at best, though I usually stick with things that are Debian based.
Because I have a rather high-end machine and people around me that are like,
"EW. LINUX. UNINSTALL THAT SH!T. IT MAKES YOU (lag, certain programs in my windows partition not work, etc),"
I usually go for a i'll-amaze-the-crap-out-of-your-windows-laptops-with-linux-awesomeness.
This means going with some heavy distro with pretty themes and compiz. As such, there were a few problems, battery life and extended performance for example.
Then something amazing happened. My brother showed me openbox on his arch machine. It was simple, elegant, non resource hogging, but beautiful. How could this be? I gave openbox a shot with Ubuntu and crashed and burned. Going directly from mac4lin+gnome to openbox was NOT a good idea. You have to walk before you run. So I began doing a bit of research and found a little known distro - Crunchbang. I was delighted to see such a distro. It had the familiarity of debian based stuff, the simplicity of Ubuntu, but the hardcoreness of openbox. It was perfect. Except for the fact that it ran 9.04 when 9.10 was running. Because of that I was a bit hesitant and said, "Okay, let's try Xubuntu with openbox. I hear that it's easier than ubuntu+openbox." And it was. But it was still iffy to me. Didn't feel right. Had all these little problems. So I went with crunchbang. With little tweaks here and there, it became beautiful. It's my preferred distro now. With 16 hours of battery life and oohs and ahhs around me.
Then something amazing happened. My brother showed me openbox on his arch machine. It was simple, elegant, non resource hogging, but beautiful. How could this be? I gave openbox a shot with Ubuntu and crashed and burned. Going directly from mac4lin+gnome to openbox was NOT a good idea. You have to walk before you run. So I began doing a bit of research and found a little known distro - Crunchbang. I was delighted to see such a distro. It had the familiarity of debian based stuff, the simplicity of Ubuntu, but the hardcoreness of openbox. It was perfect. Except for the fact that it ran 9.04 when 9.10 was running. Because of that I was a bit hesitant and said, "Okay, let's try Xubuntu with openbox. I hear that it's easier than ubuntu+openbox." And it was. But it was still iffy to me. Didn't feel right. Had all these little problems. So I went with crunchbang. With little tweaks here and there, it became beautiful. It's my preferred distro now. With 16 hours of battery life and oohs and ahhs around me.
Talk about a testimonial for #! this is IT!
Proof that #! isn't "just" Ubu with OpenBox!
#! is as much Ubuntu as Ubuntu is Debian.
Of course that's my opinion, others may differ. 
Have a Great 2010.
Bruce
Oh a partial quote:
more "linuxy"
Love it!!!!!
Have a Great 2010
Bruce
Because Arch is too difficult!!!
Speed. Simplicity. Reliability - meaning if I need sth to have done, I have all needed tools already installed.
And it looks so cool on black Asus 1101 HA
Around the beginning of 2009, I think it was, I was asking about fluxbox based distros on eeeuser.com. I had been using Arch + Fluxbox on my eee, as it was what I was used to, but it wasn't playing nice with the relatively new eee hardware of the time.
snowpine pointed out the crunchbang for me and when I checked it out and found it was very barebone (the eee and lite version) and yet backed by ubuntu repos, I was more than happy to use it forever.
I use Crunchbang on my Netbook. I tried different systems like Moblin, UNR and so on. But Crunchbang was for me the best choice.
The Handling and the performance is great and it's a deb based system.
I've been using #! for a few days now on an old toshiba laptop which I use as a backup for my main machine.
I'm new to linux(started in April 09)and wanted something I could learn more with.
I'm very slowly figuring out how to configure Openbox,so far,with help from wikis and the forum,I've added apps to the menu,changed theme,added my own wallpapers and setup multiple desktops.
So far so good......
The Handling and the performance is great and it's a deb based system.
Ever since I ran across CrunchBang a few months ago, I've been trying to find the perfect metaphor. #! is the Deuce Coupe of Debian based distros. 
This is only my second day using #! and I love it!
I have used OSX for years. Windows and I have never been the best of friends.
As a writer, I wanted a small computer to carry with me. The eee PC is up to the task. With #! it runs smoothly without all the messy PC distractions. I can use TextRoom for writing and AbiWord for editing. It's all seamless and distraction free.
Best of all, I don't have to sport that terrible Windows virus.
This is only my second day using #! and I love it!
Nice huh!!
I've been using #! for 5 or 6 months now and I have to agree with you on all counts.
Couldn't ask for something better.
Have a nice day.
Bruce
(sorry for the long post down here ;))
My trajectory as a computer user is long and chaotic. I began to play (not use) with computer since the age of 12 (I'm 36 now). My father was an early computer geek (back when the term wasn't known) and brought back strange machines from his office, like TRS-80 or Apple // or such.
Our first home computer was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum. Then I god my own second-hand one (paid with my first wages), a Commodore-64.
Then came the era of PCs, with Windows 3.1, 95, 98, XP... and I started studying graphic design and video edition... on Macs. At that moment, if you're a bit true with yourself, you couldn't deny cheap PCs were unreliable. Mine was constantly crashed. Therefore with the money I've earn with a commercial, I bought my first Mac, a G4 Quicksilver. It was in 1999 and the machine is still in use somewhere.
I've never been really interested in Linux. Linux was to me a hardcode system made for coders and network wizards, diving into endless matrix-like cyphered text-only screens. Nothing I can use of that.
Back today, my MacBook is the 4th macintosh machine. I'm still happy with it, but I'm also a big gadget-addict (with no iPhone btw). So I'm a bit proud of being one of the first owners of both Asus eeePC and eeeBox. Both of them are first-gen machines. And still reliable, since I'm writing this on my eeePc.
Now, let's get back on our topic. While the eeeBox was sold with XP on it, my eeePC was shipped with Xandros. Xandros is a non-open linux distro. The edition was made especially for the eeePC, to get a simplified, highly inconised interface that would fit the 7" screen. It works, and it's simple.
But it's boring. So after a while (and a moment without using the eeePC), I tried to find some other distros to try out. I've tried several ones, like gOS, Cloud... I can't remember all of them. Also some early versions of eeeBuntu and alike. If some looked promishing, there was always something annoying; no localisation, no wifi drivers, not everything could fit the screen... etc...
Meanwhile, on the eeeBox, I've started to play with Ubuntu (8 at the moment), and decided to really give a try learning the system, and especially the shell. I found a nice tutorial about that, and in a lightbold, I found out that is a mother-of-all funny and neat system to use.
Of course, it's not really useful to me since I can't use my professional tools on it (all the Adobe and some 3D softs), but still, it's great. So great that I've finally wipped off XP and let Ubuntu have the whole 80Gb drive for itself and turned the computer into a local SSH server and such.
Ubuntu is a great, if not the best linux distro to start with. It's really friendly and everything works out-of-the-box (at least on my machines). I have no complain. Well, except the last "Ubuntu software library" which to me is badly done, but I don't care, I'm a synaptic and apt-get user since a moment now.
Why did I turn to #! ?
Because Ubuntu, even the last release which is lighter than ever, is still a fat cow to fit the eeePC, its weak 3gb of HD and its ridiculously small 7" screen. So I started again to make test runs with several linux distros. Now I am used of the simplicity of Ubuntu and deb repositories, I was looking for a Ubuntu or at least Debian based distro. I surely can't recall how I found Crunchbang. Maybe I found the name attractive, maybe it was the darkness soberty of the main page. I can't tell.
When I tried #! on the eeePC I was scared. I though "whew, what now?" No menu, no friendly interface that takes my hand and help me whenever I need it or no. And then I discovered Openbox. And Conky. And Tint2. And everything else through Terminator. And it was done. I knew I've found the best distro for me and my little computer.
So for months, I've had Ubuntu on the "big" machine and Crunch on the little one. But it didn't last long. I've been annoyed by some stupid things in Ubuntu; gnome-screensaver replacement by xscreensaver and that unsolvable problem with the daemon not launching, Conky which kept disappearing (I found out that it was caused by the desktop fade-in after launch but was unable to solve it). Guess what? Never had such problems with #!.
So, of course and naturally, I replaced Ubuntu by Crunchbang on the eeeBox, allowing me some extras; much more classy themes and settings, a bigger and more complete Conky config and the fun with tilda terminal. Now I'm plenty happy. Everything's run as I like, looks like I like and do what I want things do.
So, thank you very much to every people who worked on this release. Thank you very much. Add a +1 to your fans counter ;)
I mainly use CrunchBang for speed, minimalism, and the wonderful Ubuntu base, without the horrific GNOME bloat
1. Speed. No bloat, even compared to other linux distros. I have all the software I will ever want on a linux distro, just about, and it doesn't even reach 4GB. Compared to Windows XP, or even some other linux distros, whose default install takes up 4GB. This is important to me, using an Acer Aspire One ZG5 with an 8GB SSD.
2. Look and Feel. The default interface is really cool, and better yet, I'm still able to do what I love to do the most: customize it.
3. Ease of use. If it wasn't easy to install/use, and was just as difficult as say, Arch Linux, I probably would have gone with attempting to install Arch Linux. Fortunately, I don't have to wade through all sorts of documentation and wiki pages just to install, making it possible to install without having to look at another computer screen, or god forbid - a printout on paper.
I have been using Ubuntu for several years and really like it. Like a lot of people here, I have #! on my netbook. Default apps are great, Openbox is very quick, #! has a great community, it's actually lightweight (unlike Xubuntu), has a great name, etc. Again, like others on here have mentioned, I finally found the distro to call home!
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