• semog
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  • From: Portugal
  • Registered: 2010-03-23
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Re: USB Install

hi try install from usb on my laptop
works great with

So based on my experience I'd say use Unetbootin with 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true' boot option (you press TAB after choosing your selection in the boot menu). Unetbootin has the advantage of running on 'both' smile operating systems and it's all GUI, point-and-clicky ... we know how command-line voodoo gets some folk *really* riled! wink

but Grub give error lilo too so what i need to do to install i erease my mint partition to install #!

so burn a cd and all works great at install big_smile

after install all works only ethernet dosent work and wireless dont recognized my home internet but the neigboers yes
someone can help me?

Last edited by semog (2010-03-24 21:17:57)

  • liame
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  • Registered: 2009-09-01
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Re: USB Install

hi everybody,

first i triedthis  on my msi wind u100plus... & didn't work...

built a liveusb with unetbootin ---> reboot ---> (had problems recognizing the cdrom:
tried going to shell and "mount /dev/sda /cdrom"  and got: "failed:invalid argument")
---> on new boot tried "text install" & "expert install" with "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" ---->
i got to installing almost 90% complete when the debian install menu popped back and asked to install the system---> tried again to install the system and got: "installing to unclean destination" (tried to reinstall to the unclean destination & to start from the beginning) & to continue with the next step---->
got in a loop with the install menu saying i skipped the "install the system" and asking again and again to install the system to the unclean destination.....

then i tried to follow the wiki, but:

when i try to boot with the new usb stick i get an error 15 (isolinux not present - or something like that)
tried all the other things in that thread without luck.

after that i got the xfce to actually run following the wiki, and it got me to the installing the system stage, and again i got the same error telling me that it can't install the system

i used all the ideas here (text install with argument, mounting the cdrom from the shell in the install menu, following the wiki : no --> yes --> none ---> /dev/sdd)

any more ideas?
thank u very much smile

edit: i tried again, and somehow it worked, i got to install the openbox version.
something strange was that everything froze when the installer was deleting the "netinst cd from the sources.list" . i had to power it off and here i am smile
(i'm sorry i can't be of more help and contribute with more data )

Last edited by liame (2010-03-27 20:11:45)

  • Registered: 2009-09-29
  • Posts: 11

Re: USB Install

tried installing #! 10 Alpha tonight on my eee 900 (celeron) 512Mb ram (USB recognized as "sdb")
used Unetbootin and "expert install" with "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true"

everything went great until Grub2 failed sad .. I did get an error at the beginning of install stating the "sda2 was in use and couldn't write changes" I'm assuming this is the reason Grub ate itself.

I'm gonna try again but before I start the install I'm gonna "umount /dev/sda" and see if that makes a difference. (not sure if Unetbootin sets up swap on the primary drive) If that fails I'm gonna try and "dd" the image and see how that goes. If anyone has any more ideas im all ears smile

[SOLVED] I just followed the instructions per the wiki http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/statler … stallation worked like a charm !! DO NOT USE UNETBOOTIN !! it does some funky stuff when it sets up the bootloader to run the "live" iso.

hope that helps

Last edited by lnxr0x (2010-03-29 20:15:21)

  • Registered: 2008-12-13
  • Posts: 1,480

Re: USB Install

Just wondering what version everyone that was having grub problems were trying to install? I had been trying the 64bit xfce version. I downloaded the 64bit openbox and install went fine, no problems.

I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may.
  • From: Sweden
  • Registered: 2009-10-20
  • Posts: 11

Re: USB Install

I've read a thread in another forum where a guy had problems installing Debian via USB because of the 'can't-find-the-cdrom-problem'. His solution for this was replacing the vmlinz and initrd.gz files with other versions. If I'm understanding everything correctly, the CDROM-versions are placed in Statler:s ISO, and you should instead use the HD-MEDIA versions the get the USB-installation correctly.

This far I've been going:
1. Mount crunchbang*****.iso to a folder
2. Copy everything to another folder
3. Replace vmlinuz and initrd.gz files with the HD-MEDIA versions.

So how do I do from here create a bootable disk from the folder I've I created? I.e. should I just copy the files of to a USB-partition (FAT16 huh?) and use syslinux? Or should I in some way create a new .iso-file? How is the originial crunchbang-******.iso created? Maybe I can use the same method as corenomial? What type of method is that?

  • From: Milan Area, Italy
  • Registered: 2009-04-29
  • Posts: 75

Re: USB Install

Somehow unpractical, but maybe worth the try.

Use ubiquity from within live installer (just like 9.04) instead of debian installer?

Too many license and tech issues?

m.

!# statler 10 + eee-control running on eee701/4gb/512ram
!# statler/sid running on MacBookAir 4,1 (mid 2011) i7-1.8GHz/128SSD/4g RAM
  • Registered: 2010-03-13
  • Posts: 37

Re: USB Install

I've managed to make some progress with the USB installation. CD-ROM issues over, but now I've got apt issues. During the installation, apt fails while fetching packages, because it's trying to connect to port 80. This won't work, because port 80 is blocked and we're behind a proxy. And I guess that's why it's unable to install grub, grub2 or lilo.

Is there any way for me to make the proxy known to apt before/during the installation? Can it be passed to the kernel as a command line parameter? Looked around, but haven't found anything in that regard.

  • From: Aranda - Spain
  • Registered: 2009-10-11
  • Posts: 46

Re: USB Install

All necessary files for installation should be in the install image, you shouldn't need to go online at all during install. Every file should be on the USB.

  • Registered: 2010-03-13
  • Posts: 37

Re: USB Install

kirmonkey wrote:

All necessary files for installation should be in the install image, you shouldn't need to go online at all during install. Every file should be on the USB.

Hmm. I also got this error, during partitioning

After "Write partition to disk": Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda6 -- Device or resource busy. This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda6 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting. Ignore/Cancel"

Selected Ignore: Failed to create a file system. The ext3 file system creation in partition #6 if SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed. GoBack/Continue.

  • Registered: 2010-03-13
  • Posts: 37

Re: USB Install

Ok, so apt is no longer trying to connect .... because I've deselected the security updates. (pebkac?)

But grub/grub2 still won't install:

E: Couldn't find package grub-legacy. Reading package lists ... Building dependency tre... Reading state information... Package grub is not available, bit is referred to by another package. This means that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package grub has no installation candidate. grub-installer: info: Calling 'apt-install grub' failed

hmm

EDIT: No partitioning errors this time.

Last edited by jargon (2010-04-08 00:07:18)

  • Registered: 2010-03-13
  • Posts: 37

Re: USB Install

The above error was for grub. This one's for installation of grub2:

dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove grub which isn't installed.
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree..
Reading state information...
E: Couldn't find package os-prober
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
E: Couldn't find package grub-pc
grub-installer: info: Calling 'apt-install grub-pc' failed
  • Registered: 2010-03-13
  • Posts: 37

Re: USB Install

Well, I wasn't getting anywhere. statler would only work in liveUSB not as a full installation sad

So I installed CB9.04 and that went smoothly. Guess I'll stick with crunchie 9.04 for now, till things get better for me with the statler-from-usb-to-netbook thing. neutral

  • From: Sweden
  • Registered: 2009-10-20
  • Posts: 11

Re: USB Install

I couldn't resist and wasted a cdrom disc to intstall from the cdrom. Everything worked ok. smile

  • From: USA
  • Registered: 2009-01-10
  • Posts: 65

Re: USB Install

I did it! I did it! It installed.........yippeeeeee big_smile

After distro hopping through all the new 'buntu's this weekend, plus one Mint spin-off, thought I would give a Debian eee install a try.

I got a splitting headache but it was worth it. Because, buried in all that info was the key!

This is how the 'dd' command is listed in the wiki: 

sudo dd if=/path/to/iso/crunchbang-10-alpha-01-openbox-i686.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M;sync

Notice the semi-colon seperating sync from the rest of the command. These are two seperate commands in the Debian pages.

So this goes first:

sudo dd if=/path/to/iso/crunchbang-10-alpha-01-openbox-i686.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M

Followed by:

sudo sync

And voila --installation proceeds as in the rest of the wiki.

On a side not. using UNetbooten produced a silver splash screen with the choice of "default" first.

Using the 'dd' command as layed out above produced a black start up screen like the one pictured in post no. 9 in this thread.

Well that's done. Hope it helps all the others that were stymied with the installation.

Now, could some kind person tell me how to add conky to the startup menu in xfce? Thanks.

Michael

Edit: Neve rmind, I found out how to add to the startup menu.

Last edited by toor58 (2010-04-13 02:43:33)

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  • Registered: 2010-04-15
  • Posts: 8

Re: USB Install

So I managed to install Statler to my EeePC pretty smoothly, using a LiveUSB (with the "dd" method). I've tried it on my desktop (connected to a wired network), and everything goes well up until the "Install the system" step, right after the "Setup partitions" step or whatever. It gets to about 33%, then gives this error message:

INSTALL THE SYSTEM
Installation step failed
An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else instead. The failing step is= Install the system.

Any ideas?

  • From: California
  • Registered: 2009-07-23
  • Posts: 65

Re: USB Install

I managed to get past the CDROM problem with the "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" parm, but now my system hangs at "Detecting Network Hardware".  Anyone else seeing this?  Has anyone else gotten by this?  I also see this in Squeeze, so I know it's not a "Statler only" problem.

Thanks, Chet

  • Registered: 2009-10-01
  • Posts: 426

Re: USB Install

I really hope that in later releases of #! we will see a install from usb-option in the boot menu, a script to auto-dd the live cd to usb and so on.. right now I feel it's just to complicated to do for netbook users. I could do it easily after searching instructions, but as this and a lot more threads show, a lot of users have problems when trying it the "normal" way (unetbootin and hitting "install" in live mode) -

also I have problems booting both statler version from my liteon cd rom drive. it works on my 2nd cd rom, but I found it strange, because it worked on both with 9.04 -

9.04 was so cool because it just worked. easy install and everyhing. It took me just 5 minutes testing live system to decide I will install the thing. with statler it's different.. Thunar does not detect my HDs on my desktop, can't mount them with gparted.. No wifi (which worked in 9.04)..  I know it's still alpha, but I think the mount problem should be resolved and installation should be made more easy and logical.

eee701/4gb/512ram
  • From: California
  • Registered: 2009-07-23
  • Posts: 65

Re: USB Install

Sanecks, this is just some of the pain we thought we might see when we made the change from ubuntu to debian.  I was one of the people that was happy to see we were changing.  debian works beautifully on my main latop.  I am experiencing video problems on my youngest daughters laptop.  I've solved that back moving back to lenny until the problem is fixed.

Now I'm having problems with my new netbook.  Unfortunately, it isn't a problem with debian linux so much as it is with the installer.  On the debian forums I read that the partitioning problem that people are seeing has to do with the drives getting shuffled after the partitioning is complete.  Other people are experiencing network hardware issues(me).  That looks like it is related to the hardware being identified as the wrong model.  People are still getting the cdrom issue.  They just need to work these things out.

On my laptop that is working, debian is working much better, faster, cleaner.  #! 9.04 was very nice, but every now and then I'd have something weird happen.  I haven't seen that with debian.  It just takes a little time.  That's why this is still the alpha.  I do feel your pain though. 

Have you been able to boot into Statler and run the live version?  It's pretty nice.  I just wish I could install it.

Hey Phillip, is there some way to copy/install from the image w/o using the debian installer?  Most things seems to work on my netbook, I just can't install.  Just curious.


Chet

  • Registered: 2010-04-15
  • Posts: 8

Re: USB Install

I still cannot install the alpha on my desktop. I've heard that Debian doesn't play well with certain hardware, which would be a massive disappointment, since it runs fine on my netbook, but I've love to use it on the desktop as well. Check post #65 for the details. Anyone have any ideas? I can provide specs if needed.

  • From: Aranda - Spain
  • Registered: 2009-10-11
  • Posts: 46

Re: USB Install

hmm,

Some useful information could be found at the time it fails by pressing the following keys:

Ctrl+Alt+f1

Or Ctrl+Alt+f2 through to f7

and looking for any output messages there.

Post what you find and we can go from there.

  • From: California, USA
  • Registered: 2008-11-29
  • Posts: 8,647

Re: USB Install

@magladek - So regular Debian doesn't work on your desktop either? What about other distros like Ubuntu, Fedora, Zenwalk etc?

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  • Registered: 2010-04-15
  • Posts: 8

Re: USB Install

kirmonkey wrote:

hmm,

Some useful information could be found at the time it fails by pressing the following keys:

Ctrl+Alt+f1

Or Ctrl+Alt+f2 through to f7

and looking for any output messages there.

Post what you find and we can go from there.

Here's a picture I took of the output screen (it ended up being CTRL+ALT+F4) after the error occurred. I had to try installing and take it in a hurry, so I couldn't see if there were additional errors or anything. Hope we can find out something with it.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1237/20100422192832.jpg

anonymous wrote:

@magladek - So regular Debian doesn't work on your desktop either? What about other distros like Ubuntu, Fedora, Zenwalk etc?

Actually, this is the first time trying any Linux distro on my desktop. My netbook (EeePC 900A) has been the only machine I've used for Linux. It's currently dual-booting CrunchEee 8.10 and #! Statler. The only other distros I've tried on it were UNR, Easy Peasy, Arch Linux and Moblin, so #! Statler's the first Debian distro I've tried. I'm really hoping to get it running on my desktop; if not, I'll try putting Crunchbang 9.04 on it, at the very least.

Last edited by magladek (2010-04-23 08:52:29)

  • From: Aranda - Spain
  • Registered: 2009-10-11
  • Posts: 46

Re: USB Install

ooooooo.

That's me lost.

I recommend a google search of the error as a starting point.

Will still follow the thread though.

  • Registered: 2010-04-23
  • Posts: 12

Re: USB Install

Hi Everyone,

I am also having problems with USB install. As mentioned by others in this thread after detecting hardware and partitioning the disks the installation aborts due to "Install failed" error. On googling I got this information. I mount my USB as suggested by someone (can remember distinctly but I think the link/suggestion was posted in this forum. Sorry if I have got it wrong.)

This typically happens because users get "creative" with combining
different installation methods or because they manually mount/unmount
things, not because of any real issue in the installer.

This info is located at http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs … 12320.html

If this is the case then how do I get started with USB install.

- Harakiri

Last edited by harakiri (2010-04-23 14:14:49)

  • Registered: 2010-04-15
  • Posts: 8

Re: USB Install

kirmonkey wrote:

ooooooo.

That's me lost.

I recommend a google search of the error as a starting point.

Will still follow the thread though.

There're probably additional status messages that just happened to get pushed off screen by the ones in the picture, so I'm gonna do it again later and try to keep better track of the messages. And I'll definitely Google around.