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....but several times, back in the days, on a sort of spiritual plane, when it seemed I was offered the chance to enter a door, but was unable to abandon everything, which was the condition... so eventually I just remained here in the regular old world....

First, allow me to quote a partial thought of yours but only because I wish to speak directly to it.  Yes.  I know exactly what you mean.  ...   I'd always wind up here.  At this place.  And I couldn't -- I just couldn't step across that emptiness. ...

Hey, yes that's exactly the sort of thing I meant! In my case it was more like being gently invited to join some sort of community, on several different occasions, but couldn't let go of all my worldly baggage. As my wife said when we were (on holiday) in Goa "You never managed to be a hippie, did you?". I see a "real" hippie as something like a Zen sage or Indian Sadhu, someone who has completely renounced the material world, who could cheerfully starve to death if that's the way it was...

And I have to agree there are resonances between the 60s idealism and that of the free software movement. smile

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Re: The Official #! Over-the-Hill-CrunchGang Thread

Back when I was in High School ... the summer between the 11th and 12th grades (1965), like many young men (boys) I had a summer job with a motive.

I bought my first car that summer ... for $200. ... I bought a '51 Studebaker.

I was very proud of that old car.   cool
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I was in the US Army, a year or so later ... I met a soldier returning from Vietnam (I was on my way there) ... but, he had bought and been paying for a car while in 'Nam.

Now, after his return, he was going to pick it up ... he paid the "unGodly" amount of $3,600 for a 1968 SuperBee (brand new)

We discussed, that "we" would never pay that much for a car.  yikes
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In my old age I own more than one car ... my favorite is an '89 Porsche 911 (Cabriolet) (we won't go into how much I paid for it 'new')

My how time does change things.

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I've been reading this with great interest and wondering how to reply to all this...

I remember hugging trees, I remember laying on the grass looking at clouds and watching stars at night.  I remember feeling like I was flying, and no I hadn't used any chemicals, it was just the clouds and the stars with a full moon in the country away from city lights, laying in a field.

I have to admit though the use of chemicals has opened my mind on a few occasions and left me with the feeling of wonderment and awe of what is around me.

I have literally walked away from everything three times in my life taking just my clothes and whatever I could carry.  The first, when I was 17 years old I learned that things are just that ... things, all I had was one medium sized suitcase with my clothes and nothing else! They can be replaced and have been two more times since that first time.

There are a "few" things that have been with me since I was 17 - photos mainly.  Other than that an old cribbage board that is probably as old as I am, it was my fathers and we use to play cribbage on it until the sun would come up when he was sick.  A wooden clock my son made for me in school in 1991 for Father's Day.  And when I go ... they will be "just things" to the next person to have them.

And things can be replaced.

You know what can't be replaced?  When your down and out and someone comes crawling out of the woodwork to help you.  Someone you would never have thought of in that role!  Those few "real friends" that touch your life and leave you a changed person.  They leave a little bit of themselves inside you and you never forget it.

The hippies had the right idea, just not the power base to pull it off.  Free software is the right idea, I doubt it will dominate the commercial software though, too much "power" over in that camp.  Linux will, however, attract a lot free thinkers in the coming years and maybe in my sons time, or grandsons time, things will change for the better.  Sad to say I don't believe I will see it in the years I have left.

Who knows though, I have been wrong before.  lol

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Yeah.  I've walked away from my own life once or twice as I recall.

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...and now on a more upbeat note I've noticed some people embed (is that the right word) websites within words while I write them out completely.  I reckon I do that because once, on a forum where I'd learn to trust people on-line someone embedded a, um, if I were Klingon I'd have to say a less than honorable site.  Just saying why I do what I do not that it even matters.  big_smile

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Did, or do you ever stop to think: why did I do that, that certain way?  Was that the way you learned it, or is it just habit?  Not mentioning habits as either good or bad, but as something you do with a sense of regularity. 

NOTE - to be filed under fleeting thoughts after first cup of coffee in morning

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Yeah.  I've walked away from my own life once or twice as I recall.

I consider those times as an upbeat time of my life - it was like a cleansing of the spirit - as close as I could get in the physical world or I should say; at least one of the ways.

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Did, or do you ever stop to think: why did I do that, that certain way?  Was that the way you learned it, or is it just habit?  Not mentioning habits as either good or bad, but as something you do with a sense of regularity. 

NOTE - to be filed under fleeting thoughts after first cup of coffee in morning

I believe that we are, in part, the sum of the people we have interacted throughout our lives.  Whether it's conscious or unconscious we adapt something we like from them and in time the 'edges' become fuzzy with another adaption from a different person.  In time we loose our conscious connection to the originating person and as it melds into other parts of us. It then becomes a true piece of who we are.

Don't ask what  - I don't remember - but I remember the incident on the sidewalk.

One day I was walking down a sidewalk going to a store, I had been trying hard to change a bad habit.  A kid came soaring by from the from on a bike.  I reacted ... and froze ... I turned around and watched the kid going away.  And was aware that the "reaction" I had had was what I had been working for - without thinking I realized that I had changed a bad habit - of some type, I don't recall what it was anymore.

I would say that is a good thing.

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winotree wrote:

...and now on a more upbeat note I've noticed some people embed (is that the right word) websites within words while I write them out completely.  I reckon I do that because once, on a forum where I'd learn to trust people on-line someone embedded a, um, if I were Klingon I'd have to say a less than honorable site.  Just saying why I do what I do not that it even matters.  big_smile

Lost me, easy enough to do - it's an age thing.  big_smile

Example please.

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vrkalak wrote:

my favorite is an '89 Porsche 911 (Cabriolet) (we won't go into how much I paid for it 'new')

My how time does change things.

OK we won't go into it .... ummmmmmmm ... gee look Nederlands & Spain on TV ... ummmmmmm

{sweating} ... {more sweating}

HOW MUCH? .. OH NO!  I'm sorry I just couldn't help myself.  lol

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Sector11 wrote:
winotree wrote:

...and now on a more upbeat note I've noticed some people embed (is that the right word) websites within words while I write them out completely.  I reckon I do that because once, on a forum where I'd learn to trust people on-line someone embedded a, um, if I were Klingon I'd have to say a less than honorable site.  Just saying why I do what I do not that it even matters.  big_smile

Lost me, easy enough to do - it's an age thing.  big_smile

Example please.

It was nothing.  wink  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  I was talking of myself, to myself.

http://omploader.org/tNHdnNg

Just changing the subject, that's all.  Had I said and now for something completely different you no doubt would have expected to be bombarded by outlandish Monty Python skits and that's not a bad thing, you know.

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Sector11 wrote:
winotree wrote:

Yeah.  I've walked away from my own life once or twice as I recall.

I consider those times as an upbeat time of my life - it was like a cleansing of the spirit - as close as I could get in the physical world or I should say; at least one of the ways.

It was a good thing.  I had to throw me away to find myself.  Now people can and will read into this anything and everything and I say: so what.  I only am and ever was needing to be true to my self, my sense of who I am.  I just didn't know it was going to be so painful and so long in coming.

Now, two decades later...  wink

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Well I'm 46 and a long time Linux user...so does that make me over the hill?  tongue

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DeepDayze wrote:

Well I'm 46 and a long time Linux user...so does that make me over the hill?  tongue

If you're over the hill - it's the wrong hill.  big_smile

But welcome to the Over the Hill CrunchGang Thread DeepDayze.

You're always welcome as a guest.

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It was nothing.  wink  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  I was talking of myself, to myself.

http://omploader.org/tNHdnNg

Just changing the subject, that's all.  Had I said and now for something completely different you no doubt would have expected to be bombarded by outlandish Monty Python skits and that's not a bad thing, you know.

You're pretty slick with a twisted phrase - or would that be - you're pretty twisted with a slick phrase?

Oh oh oh, gimme Monty Python... Monty is better than good .... pleeeeeeese!

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winotree wrote:
Sector11 wrote:
winotree wrote:

Yeah.  I've walked away from my own life once or twice as I recall.

I consider those times as an upbeat time of my life - it was like a cleansing of the spirit - as close as I could get in the physical world or I should say; at least one of the ways.

It was a good thing.  I had to throw me away to find myself.  Now people can and will read into this anything and everything and I say: so what.  I only am and ever was needing to be true to my self, my sense of who I am.  I just didn't know it was going to be so painful and so long in coming.

Now, two decades later...  wink

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Re: The Official #! Over-the-Hill-CrunchGang Thread

I found and would like to submit the perfect Official #! OHCGT Motto ::

"So far, this is the oldest I've ever been"

... does anyone 2nd the motion?

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vrkalak wrote:

I found and would like to submit the perfect Official #! OHCGT Motto ::

"So far, this is the oldest I've ever been"

... does anyone 2nd the motion?

Is this your quote or someone else's?  Not that it matters -- just pre-coffee questions.  wink

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winotree wrote:

I found and would like to submit the perfect Official #! OHCGT Motto ::

"So far, this is the oldest I've ever been"

... does anyone 2nd the motion?

I does! ... did ... will do ... had done ... will have done ... oh hell ...

I second that emotion!

vrkalak wrote:

Is this your quote or someone else's?  Not that it matters -- just pre-coffee questions.  wink

For winotree: "So far, this is the oldest I've ever been pre-coffee"
Gulp on that one.  smile

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Sector11 wrote:
winotree wrote:

I found and would like to submit the perfect Official #! OHCGT Motto ::

"So far, this is the oldest I've ever been"

... does anyone 2nd the motion?

I does! ... did ... will do ... had done ... will have done ... oh hell ...

I second that emotion!

vrkalak wrote:

Is this your quote or someone else's?  Not that it matters -- just pre-coffee questions.  wink

For winotree: "So far, this is the oldest I've ever been pre-coffee"
Gulp on that one.  smile

Dude you got those quote backwards -- back to the kitchen: coffee, coffee, coffee....

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winotree wrote:
vrkalak wrote:

I found and would like to submit the perfect Official #! OHCGT Motto ::

"So far, this is the oldest I've ever been"

... does anyone 2nd the motion?

Is this your quote or someone else's?  Not that it matters -- just pre-coffee questions.  wink

@winotree >  key work "found"

Another point ... there is no such thing as pre-coffee, is there?

I wake up to the smell of coffee brewing  ( get it all ready and set the coffee-makers timer, the night before )

"I love the smell of coffee in the morning"

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OK.  You got me on that one.  Several times over.  [My coffee making process is strictly manual, start to finish]  wink

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winotree wrote:
Sector11 wrote:
vrkalak wrote:

I found and would like to submit the perfect Official #! OHCGT Motto ::

"So far, this is the oldest I've ever been"

... does anyone 2nd the motion?

I does! ... did ... will do ... had done ... will have done ... oh hell ...

I second that emotion!

winotree wrote:

Is this your quote or someone else's?  Not that it matters -- just pre-coffee questions.  wink

For winotree: "So far, this is the oldest I've ever been pre-coffee"
Gulp on that one.  smile

Dude you got those quote backwards -- back to the kitchen: coffee, coffee, coffee....

Stop changing the quotes and get another java!  lol

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So is this the way it's going to be when you go and get old?

Little old man 1: yadda, yadda  neutral

Little old man 2: no -- Yadda, yadda  smile

Little old man 1: so -- it's Yadda, Yadda  hmm

Little old man 3: gah -- it's yadda, Yadda  mad

Little old man 1: oh -- ok -- so it's really...  tongue

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So is this the way it's going to be when you go and get old?

Little old man 1: yadda, yadda  neutral

Little old man 2: no -- Yadda, yadda  smile

Little old man 1: so -- it's Yadda, Yadda  hmm

Little old man 3: gah -- it's yadda, Yadda  mad

Little old man 1: oh -- ok -- so it's really...  tongue

And along comes lil-ole-S11 and says: "What was that all about?"

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